On Episode 87 of The Edge of Innovation, we’re talking with Jeremiah Smith, CEO & founder of Simple Tiger, about SEO, Google, and Artificial Intelligence.
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An Introduction to SEO With Jeremiah Smith
On Episode 86 of The Edge of Innovation, we’re talking with Jeremiah Smith, CEO and founder of Simple Tiger, an SEO and marketing agency. He’s sharing with us an excellent introduction to Search Engine Optimization!
Ways to Make Small Businesses Better
On Episode 30 of The Edge of Innovation, we’re talking about ways to make small businesses better!
Transcript
Paul: This is the Edge of Innovation, Hacking the Future of Business. I’m your host, Paul Parisi.
Jacob: Welcome to The Edge of Innovation, hacking the future of business. I’m Jacob Young, and I’m here with Paul Parisi. And we’re going to be talking about ways to make small businesses better.
Paul, can you hit us off?
Paul: We had come up with this topic and we deal with a lot of small businesses. I have worked in smaller businesses throughout my career. But, you know, when you do technology and web and stuff like that for these, for these businesses, and when you look at a smaller business, you know, anywhere from one to 50, a hundred people, they have a fundamental thing that they need to come to terms with right now.
One is that the world has changed. We are in an economy of social selling. And the way that a business interfaces to the world has fundamentally changed. So no longer can we say, “I can get along with just a Yellow Pages ad or with a phone number,” or, you know, putting a phone number on the side of my truck. You need to be there when the people who are going to consume your product, or potentially consume your product — whether it be carpentry or painting or interior design or medical services — you need to be where they’re looking for things, and where they’re consuming content. That used to be the newspaper, the phone booth, the Yellow Pages. And it seems like a lot of small businesses are in the mindset that they’ll just wait it out until that changes back. It ain’t gonna change back. The ship has sailed. This is the new world.
And the new world is social selling. That’s what I like to call it. It’s, you know, you’re going to have to communicate with people over the social networks and socially interact with them through a technology to make sure they understand your value proposition.
What’s nice about that is that you can get to know people that you never would have gotten to know before. But it’s not trivial. Just because you put up a website with some salient content on it, doesn’t mean people are going to find it.
Jacob: Right. It goes from everything from not only putting up a website, but having a website that, for example, we’ve talked about this several times, being mobile accessible.
Paul: Absolutely. Yeah.
Jacob: I mean, I had a friend recently tell me that he had somebody design their website for them, and I asked, “Is it mobile friendly?” “No, it’s not.” And I’m like…
Paul: Why do you bother?
Jacob: Why even both putting it together? But so you have from that end of things, all the way over to having a Facebook page, and not just having a Facebook page, but one that actually has updated information, content that can be socialized, because one you have that dynamic available for people, then they start doing the advertising for you. “Hey, I went to Paul’s pizzeria, you know, on 99th South Elm Street. It was awesome. Let me tell you about this.” You know, take a picture. Now you’ve got, not only fresh content on your Facebook, but now you have people who are advertising with pictures of your place.
Paul: Right. And their testimonial or testifying to the fact that this be good.
Jacob: To their 1,000 friends, you know. I always cry a little inside when…
Paul: When?
Jacob: When I see companies that are good companies or good businesses that just do not have this going for them.
Paul: Right. And you know, it is very much, I think, some of it with the smaller businesses is they don’t have… They’re worried about making mistakes. And, they’re rightfully worried about this. Because if you made a website… Let’s say you went overboard, and you spent a lot of money. $15,000 on a website. Integrated it with your catalog and everything, and, because you thought was the thing to do five years ago. Now you’ve got to re-do that. So, oh my gosh. I made a mistake by doing that. I don’t want to be that guy who made that mistake and wasted that money. So I’ll just wait to do it.
Well, the good news is, is that we’re at a point now where we can make more intelligent decisions about that, you know. And we need to get a web presence that both tells who we are and our value proposition, is accessible on mobile, accessible on this, and integrates all of the social platforms.
But it doesn’t stop there, you know. So don’t get yourself into a funk where you say, “Well, I don’t know what to do, so I’m not going to do it.” There are lots of organizations like ours who can help you, sit down and say, you know, “This is what’s good to do. This is what you shouldn’t do.”
And that’s an ongoing investment, you know. It’s not one and done. And I like the use the analogy that if you went into a store, a shoe store, and you saw the same shoes that were there 10 years ago, you would say, “I’ll go somewhere else.” Or you go into a sports apparel store or something, and you see the old logos. And they don’t have the newest logo for your team. It’s like, “Well, why would I go here.”
The counters are dirty, and I can’t see the device behind the counter. Or if I go into Best Buy and the cameras aren’t all laid out nicely. And none of them work; they’re not charged. You’re going to be like, “What the heck with this?” You know?
So that’s the same thing you do on a website. If I come to your website and it doesn’t work, it doesn’t have updated information, I have to get the feeling, as a consumer of your website, that this is the most current and accurate information there is. Because without that, you increase their cognitive load. The whole point of a website and social media and Yelp reviews is to say, “It reduces the amount of work. It reduces the risk on my part.” So if I hear that this person put up a good review of the pizza shop, okay, now I have a way to manage my expectations. And if they say it was bad, well, I still might need to go there because of the time, and I don’t have a place to go other where else. And, but this is going to help me do that.
And I think it also promotes excellence, because, you know, if you get that bad review on Yelp, you’re going to want to fix that.
Jacob: So I’m hearing you say two things here. We were just saying, it’s a new setting. And then you’re saying also, not being afraid to make mistakes.
Paul: Yeah. Well, you will make mistakes, but you have to be playing in this new world. The world has moved, and if you don’t, that is a bigger mistake then having done something wrong. The nice part about that, though, is that we’re at a point in web design where, well, again, if you do it right, you aren’t going to make mistakes. You need a website that is clear, salient, simple, and works on a phone. And, you know, I can’t tell you and number of sites I go to. We have a sister podcast that’s called Save Your Sites where we go through websites and how they could be improved. And we have an unlimited supply of websites which we can review. And that’s, that’s sort of like, you know, why don’t they have their address on here? You know, it’s obvious to somebody who says, “Why?” And they don’t… There’s no good reason, except somebody didn’t see that.
And then when you load it on a phone, you can’t read it at all because it’s too small. So those kind of things.
So you’re going to make mistakes. But I think now with the right partners and looking at other examples of things they’ve done, you can choose somebody who will make fewer mistakes. But don’t let that dissuade you, because just about the time you’re done with your website, wait six months more, and then you’ve got to redo it again. Because you’ve got to clean the counters. You’ve got to re-merchandise the store. You’ve got to move things around, make it look interesting.
Every time somebody comes into your store, if it was exactly the way it was when you first opened, he’s probably going to walk out with buying less. But if you have… If you move the stuff around… You look at merchandising in stores. They’re constantly doing it. You go into a Macy’s. They’re constantly doing things to get people to engage with the product. That’s what we’re talking about.
Jacob: That’s excellent. So it seems to me like you’re then kind of hinting at the next category of planning. So talk us through that.
Paul: So the whole idea here is, you know — what is it? — the phrase “Failing to plan, is planning to fail.” And that’s really what it is. You have a responsibility, as a business owner, to effectively communicate your value proposition. That might be a product. It might be a service. Nobody is going to do that for you. I mean, in a Yelp world, people may help you with that. But you need to give them something that’s absolutely clear. And if you come in and don’t plan what you’re going to do, you’re not going to do it.
And, you know, it’s very, very difficult. If you look back at the last year on what you’ve done, they’ve either been reactive things or planned, proactive things. You can’t let things go by just the tyranny of the urgent. You need to really get away from that mentality.
Jacob: And I think that maybe one way to kind of break this down is to say you need to plan. You need to plan for your growth personally, as the business leader, and then you need to plan for your business to grow. Obviously there’s a five-year plan, however you’re going to move things forward, you have to think about what’s the plan for that plan to be executed.
Paul: It’s planning to plan. And then also setting goals and not that you’re going to hit all your goals. But it gives you some metric by which to judge whether you’re successful or not.
Jacob: Yeah. And I think in terms of a book that I’ve been really helped by in the last year that I would recommend for you along the lines of planning to grow personally, is The E-Myth Revisited by Michael Gerber. It’s a book aimed at entrepreneurs and, actually, kind of touches on some of these things we’ve talked about, because entrepreneurs or small business owners almost always get into the industry because they love, for example, to bake cakes. And they want to bake cakes for a living.
Well, when you start being the business owner of a company that bakes cakes, it’s a different experience. Well, that’s great that you want to do that, but plan to grow into that role of leading a company that, for example, bakes cakes. So, but it’s that planning for your own personal growth because that’s going to be effective in leading your company to grow as a business as well.
Paul: Yeah. We have a podcast that’s coming up that talks about some of the core issues of entrepreneurship, and we should revisit that as well. But entrepreneurship, it’s in vogue right now. And I think it will continue to do that, be in vogue. But it has particular challenges. Now, we’re talking about small businesses, really, here. Businesses that are somewhat established and I think that there’s a difference here. And most entrepreneurs, because they’re starting in a vacuum, will have a website that explains what they’re doing. The issue is as you become complacent over time, what do you say?
And you have to be relevant contemporarily. In other words, right now you have to be relevant. You know, so we’re in New England, and leaves are starting to blow, so, you know, the people that clean gutters should have an updated website and an iPhone way to book them, you know. Doing that in February or March isn’t going to make that much difference. Now they might build it during that time and, you know, deploy it later, but the point is, is that, you know, our relevance, it has to be contextual.
Jacob: Well, I think that’s a perfect example, because, obviously, like, you know, leaf cleaners or whatever are going to only be doing their business, at least in New England, at a cer— you know, a two or three month period, but you can’t start designing the website or the landing page for that in September. You have to plan ahead. And you have to plan to do that in, like, March.
Paul: Right. Exactly. For the next September. You know, but there’s also things not with just seasons, but what’s going on, you know. There’s one store that I get their texts on, and it says, “Oh, you know, because of the hurricane, we’re going to extend our weekend sale two days.” And they’re doing a good job at that. But like if you’re a builder, get your house tightened up for winter, or whatever that value proposition is, it has to be relevant to reality. And that’s an important takeaway, I think, that it’s, you need to think about that.
And what we’ve done and I recommend is what’s called a contact calendar, is to really look at a calendar and right down, well, what am I going to talk about this month? What am I going to talk about this month? What am I going to talk about this? This month?
Now you have to be a little bit flexible with that, because things might come up, you know. So if you sell home heating oil, and you know that the prices are going to go up, you want to be opportunistic and say, “Order now before the prices go up.” Or “We’re, we’re having an issue with the Middle East, so there might be a rise in oil prices. Protect yourself now.” So you need to be aware of that, which you are, because you’re already in the market. But you need to communicate that insight to the next person.
Jacob: You need to have a plan in place of how to capitalize on those observations that, to you, seem obvious. And making them accessible to the people that you are trying to either appeal to as a customer base or you’re already serving as customers.
Paul: Absolutely. Well, yeah. Don’t ever underestimate the amount of work you need to do to keep a customer because everybody out there is trying to take that customer away from you. So if you’re not doing anything to say, “Hey, we’re just as good as the new guys, and we’re…we know you.” Even just, you know, “We like you.” Or, “You like us. And remember that good service we gave you.” Remind people of those things is critical. And so making sure that you’re banging the drum for your business is a huge, huge value.
Jacob: Yeah. I mean it’s this principle people don’t think about you as much as you do.
Paul: Yes, that’s true. If they do, you might have a problem.
Jacob: Those are the… The people who do think about you as much as you do are the people you don’t want commenting—
Paul: That’s right. Exactly.
Jacob: —on your YouTube and Facebook pages. So the last category then, is investing versus the status quo. Talk us through that one.
Paul: Well I think there’s an enormous amount of personal inertia to overcome this idea of the status quo. We are all busy. We are all, you know, overloaded with things and just things keep us really, you know, going, going, going. And so we will default leave at the status quo. And we need to really approach things from the point of view of, “Wait a minute. What am I going to invest in today?” You know, there was a Microsoft campaign, probably 10 years ago, “Where do you want to go today?”
And it was really a brilliant thing because they were saying that their technology helps you go where you want to go. So if you’re not thinking about that, nobody else is. And if you work at a small business, you add value by saying, “Where are we going? How are we going to get there? And let’s overcome the status quo. How can we improve? How can we be better?”
You know, we have to constantly look at how do we make things a better experience for our customers because there’s such competition. And if you don’t do it, somebody else will, and they’ll take your customer away.
Jacob: So it seems like it would be even worthwhile to think about how you can either delegate to somebody on your team or hire somebody on, either part time or full time to help manage these or have a contract relationship, for example.
Paul: Well, I think there’s two aspects to that. I think everybody on the team should absolutely be thinking this way, is “How do we do better? How do we improve?” And that, I think, has to come from the top down, but it has to be, it has to be nurtured. People are not going to extemporaneously just know how to do that. They have to challenge the status quo and say, “Well, why is it we do it this way? Is there a better way to do it?” And sometimes the answer is going to be, “No. This is good enough for now.” But I think you’ll find that there will be some germane issues that you can say, “Wait a minute. Yeah, that does need to be addressed. And let’s put a plan in to do that.”
So that’s, I think, critical, a critical way to look at it. If you are the business owner or president or CEO or chief bottle washer or whatever it might be, you absolutely have to look at that. And, you know, the changing, the changing landscape of your business.
The world has changed. And one of the things we can be certain of is change will continue.
Jacob: Yeah. That’s for sure. So, just in conclusion and to kind of wrap things up, the five things that we’ve been looking at are for five things to make a small business better is recognize you’re in a new economy; recognize it’s going to be okay to make mistakes, but make mistakes anyways. Or would you rephrase it differently?
Paul: Well, you’re going to make mistakes.
Jacob: You’re going to make mistakes.
Paul: And deal with it. Get over it.
Jacob: Get over making mistakes.
Paul: Yeah. I mean, don’t let that paralyze you from not trying. You have to try or you will die.
Jacob: Yeah. So new economy. Try or die. You have to plan to plan; you have to plan ahead. Recognize that you want to keep your content contemporary and relevant to what’s going on for your business today. And then, as a part of that as well, is constantly fighting the status quo to be innovating.
Paul: Absolutely. Nobody is going to do it if you don’t do it.
Jacob: Excellent. Thanks, Paul. This has been The Edge of Innovation, hacking the future of business. If you’d like to hear more about Paul or hear more about how Paul has been leading Savior Labs to do these very things, you can visit us at PaulParisi.com or SaviorLabs.com. Hope you’re doing well. See you next week.
Ads, Apple, and Amazon: Tweets from the Edge
On Episode 18 of the Edge of Innovation, we discuss recent news in technology and what it means for the future. We’re also talking about Ads!
Show Notes
Paul’s Twitter
Courage
Adblockers
Transcript
Sections
Intro and New England Fall Time
Adblockers
Amazon and Netflix
Business Model Implications
Introduction
Intro and New England Fall Time
Jacob: Welcome to the Edge of Innovation. It’s great to talk to with you, Paul. Today we’re going to be going over your tweets. But first, I just wanted to hear what’s going on for you and how are you doing today.
Paul: Well, it’s coming into fall. You know, we’re in New England, so fall is a beautiful time. Weather is changing. It’s getting a little cooler. And you know, things turn to Apple new announcements, things like that. You know, what’s going on in the only world that really matters, the Apple world.
Jacob: Well, that would make sense. It is fall. We’re in northern New England, and it’s apple season. So…
Paul: There you go. Exactly. Yeah, in fact, the, the town that I live in is having its apple festival this week, so everybody’s iPhones and iPads will be out and apple pie and all sorts of cool stuff. So, but yeah, we’ll talk a little bit about, you know, what Apple’s been doing and not doing and sort of, you know, some of that. You know, there’s a, there’s a huge… In New England, there’s a, uh, big… I don’t know. Sort of a malaise. I don’t want to really say malaise of the summer. You know, people are in vacation mode, you know, every week. We live by one of the major highways to New Hampshire and Maine. And it is just packed going north on Friday afternoons or Thursday afternoons, if you’re lucky. And then coming back Sunday evenings.
And, so there’s, that mindset is, you know, people going away for the weekend, and they’re not really thinking about work and business and all that kind of stuff. So, you know, with September, you know, comes all the influx of all the students in New England. And so traffic goes way up. And everybody is back to work, so traffic goes way up. You have to plan, you know, longer commutes and stuff like that. But it’s really now back to the shift of focusing on business and focusing on what we can accomplish and managing things.
Adblockers
Jacob: Yeah, well I think that’s a great reason to pull up these 10 articles that you were tweeting about this week. I see the same thing. I live in southern New Hampshire, and Sunday afternoons, we just don’t go driving on the highway because it’s incredible the amount of traffic that is coming back. And so I think the way we can help our friends and help other people who are in business and entrepreneurs, to kind of catch them up on what they missed in the last month.
So I thought we’d start out with looking at what media companies don’t want you to know about with ad blockers. This was an article that you, tweeted, and it got a lot of attention. I thought you could maybe talk us through what’s going on with that article and why you recommended it.
Paul: Yeah. The fundamental thing that struck my, my reading through it. And I read a lot of stuff, so you know, I’m providing a service for the community.
Jacob: You are truly providing a service.
Paul: What is I just, you know, read constantly and the things that strike my interest are weird. You know, it’s very wide, you know, from Bitcoin to, Raspberry Pi to, you know, a new extension for C++ I was tweeting about this morning. And this one struck me, because, you know, there is an implicit bargain, in using the web. And that implicit bargain, from its earliest days, has been in order for us to present content to you for free, you know, in all form or fashion, it’s free, you’re going to consume our ads.
And, a lot of people go and put ad blockers on. And that ad blocker is detectable, by the server that is serving the content. And so you have people like New York Times CEO Mark Thompson saying that, you know, we are going to do something about people that have ad blockers running. So it’s…they’re saying that if you reduce the quid pro quo or ignore it, we’re not going to give you our content. That goes in the face of open and free. And really, what it does is it unmasks the real purpose, which is to make money.
You know, Google’s, you know, “Do no harm,” or whatever, their “Don’t be evil,” is great and all that. But they fundamentally make, you know, enormous amounts of money. And it’s ads. It’s all ads. And, you know, I don’t have a problem with ads…for things I like. You know, that would be really nice, and you know, I’ve mentioned this in the past. I’ve been shopping for something. Let’s say a stereo. And, you know, I go onto Amazon and shop for a stereo, and then I, you know, okay.
Or I did this with Newegg last week. I was shopping for a scanner. And I looked at the price. And it was actually a little cheaper than Amazon, and I was like, “Okay. Well, I don’t know. It’s still a lot of money.” I didn’t want to spend the $400. And then for the past couple of days, now I see ads for Newegg saying, you know, showing me a scanner.
That’s okay, but they’re telling me that it’s the same price I saw. Man, if they gave me $10 off, I’d be there in a shot to buy it. I don’t understand why they don’t do that. And I, I do understand that you can’t run a business by constantly cutting your price.
Jacob: With the ad blocker stuff, I’ve notice that as well, that websites are starting to… I’ll go to read an article, and it’s not even just business articles. It’s articles across the board, and I’m being blocked. Or they’ll put up a little fly window, “We detect that you have an ad block. For you to be able to view our content, please remove that.”
In addition to that, I saw this last week, an article indicating that Adblock Plus is now going to be selling ads space on the website. So…
Paul: Well, yeah. So that’s a bait and switch. It’s like, “Oh, we’re going to…” You know, so basically, they’ve programmed a backdoor into your system.
Jacob: Right. They’ve made the agreement, like what you’re talking about. We’re going to remove the content. It’s free. You’re going to use this. But now they’re monetizing their access to your website, viewing and turning that ad space that was there, designed by the website. Now they’re replacing it.
Paul: Well…yeah. I mean, that’s just insidious. I mean, you know… But the bottom line is, I don’t use an ad blocker because it’s sort of like that quid pro quo. I mean, I know they have to make money or at least have the opportunity to think they might make money. I typically don’t click on ads. So that’s one use case.
The other use case that really torques me up — and I knew this bothers you — is where websites have the, you know, an article wrapped in just a huge number of ads. You know, and then you have to click page two of the article. You can’t just see the whole article. And then you get a new set of ads. Alright, what I don’t like about that, I use an iPad Air is its experience is so slow in serving those ads that I abandon reading that content.
Jacob: Yeah. I mean, if you were to do a, you know, a data usage on a website… I mean, that’s why I use an ad blocker is because the data usage on loading a website goes drastically down when you put the ad block on because there’s all the media, all the links, all the backend that’s being pulled in.
Paul: Well, so I looked into an ad blocker for my iPad. But there’s nothing that I can do at an operating system level, because I use Flipboard, and I use, you know, Firefox, and I use Safari. So, and I don’t really know which one I’m using, because…I do. But I don’t think about it. So I might be in the middle of a Flipboard article and say “Open in Safari,” and, you know, you get all these wrapped ads. And it’s just a bad experience. And it’s driving me aware from doing that.
But, obviously, they’re doing it, and they’re doing it for some reason, because they’re getting some traction or acceptance on it. But, you know, it also makes me think a little bit about, TV and commercials. We have, Fios. Verizon Fios is our TV provider. And with their set top box, we record things and watch. We never watch live except for football. And even for football, we’ll start, we’ll start watching the game a half an hour late so we can skip the ads. You know, we’ve got it down.
We were watching something. We were watching an old episode of Top Gear. And, uh, I can hit the jump button five times and almost nail when the show starts again. And so, you know, people say, “Oh, did you see that ad?”
It’s like, “No. I don’t know what you’re talking about.” I don’t see any television ads. And I was thinking a little bit about that. We’re, uh, we’re investigating using Plex now. Plex just added a DVR feature. And I don’t understand the…how the TV people haven’t pushed back at us skipping ads. And it’s been happening for years. I mean, we’ve been doing it. We had a TiVo or a replay TV, you know, 15 years ago. And we were, we were using it to skip ads.
Jacob: Yeah, of course.
Paul: Not just time shift. But really skip the ads was the huge benefit for us. Uh, you know, watching a show in 40 minutes is a lot better than watching an hour.
Amazon and Netflix
Jacob: Well, and I think that’s why companies like Netflix and Amazon video are being wildly successful, because they’re dropping TV. I mean, because they’re agreement is pay $10, or whatever it is, a month, and there’s no ads.
Paul: What’s interesting about that is I’ve, just started watching Under the Dome. I don’t know if you’ve seen it.
Jacob: I started watching it, and I have a hard time committing to shows.
Paul: Well, that’s it. It’s basically Lost, under a big dome. But anyway. Same, you know, music. Bommm…
Jacob: Are there smoke monster…?
Paul: Almost.
Jacob: Amazing weird codes.
Paul: Almost. Gee. It is so Lost. Anyway. But every time it goes to a scene where you hear the bonk. You know, we always joke that when there’s the end of a scene, stranger things, they’re doing that. They come right up in that music, you know. But it’s so delightful that you don’t have to go to a commercial. And it just rolls into the next scene with that black, and that is just so wonderful.
But so, you’re right. You know, Netflix and all of that, everybody loves that. But I was thinking, you know, for me, which, I don’t think, as far as television viewer, I’m pretty normal. Uh, we time shift everything, even the football game. We start it a half an hour late so that we can—
Jacob: And you’re not the only person I heard, that does that.
Paul: Right. Yeah. So they just must be losing out on revenue. Now they don’t have a way to see, “Hey, you’re skipping our ads, so we’re not going to show you the show.” But could that be coming, you know? So, you know, if you watch, uh, on demand on Verizon, it pops up and it says, “Some of the features of your DVR with be disabled in the show.” Fast forward and rewind and all these different things. So can’t, you have to watch the commercial.
Now, okay. If I have to watch the commercial, make them interesting, and don’t repeat the same commercial at every commercial break. Really painful. So, you know, it’s an interesting, interesting time to be alive. It’s first world problems that we have, you know.
Business Model Implications
Jacob: It’s interesting that we would go from an article about, simple ad block on a website to commercials and just advertising in general, because I mean…
Paul: Well, that’s all it is. I mean, this is what the business model for the web is advertising. Google is one of the largest companies in the world because it’s advertising. Now there is a shift, which is pay for content, which is Netflix and Amazon Prime. That is a radical shift. Uh, you know, you can go and pay for The New York Times. You don’t get— well, you probably get, still would get ads. But, you know, you could pay for it. That’s the Holy Grail is to get people to pay for your content.